got a good book selection for you ..

It's called "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein. It will knock your socks off. It's about the rise of disaster capitalism!

You just wouldn't believe the stuff that goes on .. and has gone on since Reagan at lease if not before. Look out for the Chicago boys and Milton Friedman's economics.

Okay don't want to give anything away.. but what this book does is connect the dots....like "follow the money" and the "turmoil". I was wondering why there were so much unrest around the world.. now I know why.. we're there!

Two more months.. of

chest leading, butt strutting, arrogant Bush! Oh yeah - "If we decide on any important changes we'll be sure to let newly elected Obama know!" Oh please - you idiot! We are in the time of crisis and now is not the time to be so arrogant or try to act like you really know what the hell is going on! He's the epitome of ignorance!

They should be working together and Obama in on the decisions for these next sixty days. Why is there a lap anyway! Shouldn't the new president take over immediately? And not allow time for the old to disrupt and destruct - any further - in this case!

Just another attempt at draining the well dry before they leave - just to see if they can get anymore to stuff in their pockets! Greed should be imprisoned - of course that would include the whole of this past republican circus! Talk about a bunch of smart ass crooks! And arrogant! It's black mail for one thing - much less a "hold-up"! "Give us all the money our we'll take the whole economy down with us! Pretty smart actually! Is that more of "shock and awe" tactics?

I'm reading the "The Shock Doctrine" The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by Naomi Klein

Yeah the crooks are being pretty sophisticated in greedy plans to rip off the American taxpayer!

Instead of bailing out everyone at the top - who are already rich and should put back into the companies. I'm talking about CEO top heavy not shareholders! What the government should do is demand that corporations bring back good paying jobs so build our economy. Oh the hell with it!

The hell with oil. Plastics can be made out of corn syrup - didn't you know? Maybe this economical correction is the best thing yet! A fresh start at new "green" 21st century jobs where American can lead the way "out" of war for oil - and greed over oil! Please! The hell with the oil - let's go air, wind, solar for electrical power.

How about people getting honest for change and stop trying to rip people off or taking advantage of people's loses for corporate gain! What a bunch of ass holes! As a nation; as a people - we should do not have much to be proud of!

Imagine people working like dogs at low paying stupid jobs - the only ones left - to rip off other people - to treat people - to rob people!

Just another Neal Bush dirty Savings and Loan scandal! The Bush dynasty has been the worse yet. I thought Nixon was a down right "let's ripp'em off crook!". Reagan was no better.. chiseling away at safe guarding regulations - oh they knew it was to rip off the American people and an attempt to fool people and the economy for a while till the end of their term and then leave the next fool with all the mess! Of course McCain would have only continued on with the mess - he's no economist! This isn't a joke! Obama has an economic education that is much needed in this time of crisis. He has a clue - Bush is as dumb as this flower pot I'm sitting next to! An insult to the American public! Fool! Like we weren't aware of the things, the actual planning and shock and awe that lead us into a monetary war for oil and Halliburton products!

It all started with crooked Enron - Ken Lay - Bush's friend. Yeah he deceased alright! I got a bridge to no-way I'll sell you on that one! Yeah, take the money and run without penalty without punishment; not so even a hand slap! While millions of people lose their monetary futures; their hope and dreams!

But, when you are a big shot you can do what you want and it doesn't matter how many toes you step on - as long as you can do what you want - and get rich - and feel powerful - and buy what you want - to show off and appear successful to impress people - because people really give a crap about you - and forget it! You are not fooling anyway!

A good, Christian, decent person who at least take the money and help others out with it! A decent person is not ruthless and destructive to other's. What ever happened to ethics, honor and pride? In my mind - they are all a bunch of losers riding on the phoning bible fiction - it's all fiction! Written by mere mortals!

So, let's hope some of these jerks get some pride about themselves. Money certainly can't buy you health, respect or honor!

What a bunch of losers! Get those suckers off of Capitol Hill and take all those 34,000 losing lobbyist with you! Please!

Talk about another forest of crookery - thievery! The drug companies - inventing diseases to fulfil their own drug prescription needs! Pretty amazing! My friend has her own Lipitor story.. and now even off the drug she still doesn't feel right!

Yes, it pays to read and research.. but in today's sick economy (because we were allowed to be cheated and robbed) most people have to work two or three jobs to make ends meet (oh yeah it was very important that the rich - get rich! Who ever heard of CEO's making 800 times more than then their employees. Where I come from that is called embezzlement!

Too bad...

Obama can't just step up to the plate now and get moving on home foreclosures and stimulus packages for the average tax payer. Paulson is a Bush/Cheney agent and you know once again nothing will get accomplished for us.. only the rich. If only Obama could go to work right now.

In fact I think it's "their" last ditch effort to drain our economy and the average tax payer totally dry before "they" leave office!

Obama would have had an incentive package out here by now and he would create helpful ways for people missing house payments to save their home. But most importantly Obama by now would have the wheels in motion for a "green" environment and economy.

This evening on PBS, I believe, there will be a documentary about prescription drugs in our tap water. Probably from what we pee more than them being dumped down the drain. It is said that our filter systems only clear out so much! Ugh! And they don't want us drinking bottled water either saying there are PBR (or whatever) in the plastic that contaminates the water.

Oh woe are we! We do need a conscientious president. Bush is an idiot! All Bush and Cheney and H. W knew to do was remove regulation and restrictions and stipulations that protected the average tax payer and opened the 'greed" door for banks, finance companies with sub-prime rate loans practically forced on people with "car salesman like techniques".

So, can we possibly hang on - can the economy - hang on for sixty days? I certainly hope so! My intuition tells me the market will rebound bullistly like gang busters once it gets going. I believe that Obama will product incentives for medium size corporations and businesses to get "green" and our economy will not only survive but thrive!

Rachel

What a refreshing sight on TV.. Keith Oberman - go home! You stink! Who are you trying to be Jon Steward or Colbert..and Chris.. go ome Keith.. it's not appealing
Why do you have to be loud and forceful and ugh!

I want more of Rachel...Now's she's pleasant on the eyes and hears and is a Rhodes scholar I hear. And as cute as can be! She's the best! And she's not an egotistical smartass. She doesn't drown out people. And have you ever notices.. she appoligizes if it's call for.. you'll never hear a man do that - for anything. It's always someone's fault! Ugh!

blungering idiots

in Washington seem to be bumping into each other.. and no one is knowing who's doing what or what to do next?

Of course Republicans are adamating in favor of only helping CEO's and larger businesses...you know the ones who got us into this trouble anyway by there greedy creative methods of ripping off the American tax payer. But Republicans don't deal with us pions only big shot crooks in Washington and on Wall Street.

So guess that's not going to well so today Paulson said money is going to banks and brokerage.. not sure now. But it's all very scary.

I think China got a bail out and their market's went to health! The whole world economy is going to hell.

Thomas L. Friedman who wrote "Flat, warm and crowded" thinks we should not bail out the American auto companies. Why? Because they spent most of their profits on ads trying to get Americans in big gas guzzlers when the could have used that money to develop new hybrids (that got decent mileage)and electric plug in cars.

Let's face it.. the Republicans have made the biggest mess in history during the whole eight years and now that they have set up this miserable mess they are "bailing"! What a bunch of losers and masters of greedy lobbyist.. I hope they are all happy while America starves? What a bunch of crooks. Them alone with their big shot buddy CEO's picking profits in their pockets.. and bail out money too, I'm sure.. Well, they go unregulated so it's a free for well!

The president's job is to monitor and regulate and set restrictions and make sure people are treated propering and without treatery.. but of course Republicans only work for people of money! Bush is the worse pesident I think I have ever seen!

If he was a man, I mean a man - he would work with Obama now to get things in place to help the tax payers of this country.. the poor who are losing their money, homes, and jobs. What kind of an idiot is this man? He hasn't a clue! And no I don't fee sorry for him.. being the president is not some silly game you get into to one up your brother or to please your daddy! Daddy too was pissed because he lost to Clinton and then spent the whole eight years trying to tear Clinton down. And daddy Bush was pissed because he couldn't get Saddam Hussien.. so junior thinks he's going to get in there and save the day and be a big shot to his daddy. Trust me Cheney was running the show for daddy.. anyway what a mess! No one wins here. Well except big shot daddy's friends CEO crooks.. because since Reagan de-regulations and no over sight or restrictions lead the way.. and CEO's had a free for all and took the money and ran. This stuff went on way back when with Enron and Stupid Bush didn't have a clue!

Seems Paulson doesn't have a clue either. No wonder other countries hate us... for our "let bankers, CEO's and wall street run amok" attitude.

A president is supposed to over see, regulate and restrict the amount of money CEO people can make! It's not that hard to figure out Bush.... When lobbyist demand you merely say "NO!" So now we're in this mess that this last administration has created. Clinton left things in fine shape desspire all the crap Republicans tried to dish out and Bush managed in only 8 years to place this economy in near disaster! What fools!

Yes, the big three spent all their money trying to brain wash men mostly into living like their daddys and driving stupid retro gas guzzlers. What fools? What oil fools? This is the 21st century.. act like it! Cars need to be smaller.. we look ignorant and foolish. Like we don't give a damn about the environment.. like we don't give a damn about bundling and shipping off bad debt, knowing I might add, to other countries. How a bunch of losers... I'm actually feeling hoplessliess and embarrassed! All I have to say is that they better gets their acts together and work together.. and stop acting like stupid idiots and fix this mess! Instead they are probably all scambling around like a bunch of chickens trying to suck out the last dollar they can for themselves.

Joe lieberman is an embarrassment!

Pushing statin.. even onto people with normal

cholesterol! See the USA article below. Sure trying to push the sell of statins aren't they? See they are degrading Vitamins,, they want people to rather buy statins.. you know the drug companies..the greedy drug companies.. I heard the drug company head of the FDA (talk about double dipping or conflict of interest)wants to put all supplement under the control of the FDA. I guess they want to get all the money they can.. probably charge an arm and leg for them too! Hey Obama we need corporate oversight and regulations put back into play.. promto! Let's build up what Bush torn down.. fast.. before it destroys the global economy! Is that reason to call it treason? yet?

So here's the article I was talking about....if the drug companies had it their way every people alive would be on some kind of prescription drug.. well, give them time, they'll invent a few more diseases.. hey, how many times have you peed today.. over eight? Then you need a pill! (doesn't matter if you drank a ton of coffee - that's no excuse.. you need a pill I'm saying)! Gosh darn it!

By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY

An eight-year study of more than 14,000 male physicians found that taking vitamin C and vitamin E did not prevent cardiovascular disease.

The findings for vitamin C are not surprising given the results of numerous studies that reached the same conclusion, says Howard Sesso, a professor at Harvard Medical School and lead author of the study. It will be published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

STATINS: Help even in those with normal cholesterol, study showsBETTER LIFE: More on heart health

But the findings for vitamin E are new because this was the first large, strictly controlled study to assess the supplement and how it affects the heart and blood vessels, Sesso says.



The men enrolled in the Physicians' Health Study II were broken into four groups, which were given vitamin C and a placebo, vitamin E and a placebo, C and E together, and placebo only. The dosages were 500 milligrams of vitamin C daily and 400 international units of vitamin E every other day. There were about 3,600 men in each group.

When results were assessed, it was found that neither C nor E had an effect on what the researchers call "major cardiovascular events," which include heart attacks, stroke or death.

The study results might seem disappointing for consumers, "but we actually feel this is important from a public health standpoint, given the frequency of these vitamins' use without having good data," Sesso says.

The hope that vitamins C and E might help prevent cardiovascular disease came from both animal and test-tube studies in which the antioxidants had shown heart benefits. There are also studies of people who followed diets rich in these vitamins and who also took supplements.

Annette Dickinson, former president of the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a supplement industry group, says the findings point to the need to place supplements in a context in which consumers are also taking other steps toward a healthful life.

"You pull a nutrient out of the whole diet context and you don't see the same effects," she says.

Dickinson says more research is needed to determine whether a higher dose or different form of vitamin E would be more effective.

Website address: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-11-09-supplements-study_N.htm

Keynesian economics....

interesting! Now I know what it is

Named after John Maynard Keynes. And I"m quoting from

http://www.investorwords.com/2693/Keynesian_Economics.html
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Keynesian Economics definition named for economist John Maynard Keynes. An economic theory wich advocates government intervention, or demand-side management of the economy, to achieve full employment and stable prices."

I agree, government should regulate and over see and intervene if necessary in wall street business transactions and activites. There should be auditors checking the books when a company goes public to protect investors. It's only reasonable. But, lobbyist wanted regulations extremely reduced and this govenment having the responsbility to protect the tax payers.. turned their backs and added a blind eye to fraudulent, unethical and corrupttion by companies. My opinion: You can't open the gate and not expect the carrle to roam freely!

In my opinon the offenses when hand in hand. Conservatives weren't going their jobs and Bush did not sign off several times when Democrats tried to past a bill to raise minimum wage! Just what was Bush thinking? And he tries to dissolve unions too! Of course businesses do not want taxes raises, or wages raised or have to content with unions but look at teh results of de-regulations through the republicans years in office.. every body is going belly up!

For the past eight years people were forced to charge more onto credit cards.. well, that's clue number one that people cannot make enough to keep up with the raising cost of everything - but wages!

The major fault by government is to not over see and audio public companies but instead let them run amok and big shot CEO's ran off with all the money.. so share holders got nothing and employees even less.

In just six months alone a half a million jobs have been lost! Because the economy was allowed to run with out over sight.. and one company had no idea what another was doing.. or maybe they did.. and they were top-dogging it see who could get more money faster.. who could own the most trophies in way of jets, houses, whatever, big shot CEO egotistical maniacs buy?

Our government is at fault here for turning the Federal Reserve, FDA and everything else over to the capitalist corporate heads themselves. Bush open the door and let the foxes into the hen house - he invited with de-regulation favors to lobbyist!

I believe Bush is the worse president I have ever seen.. but really daddy Bush knew W was an idiot and so his main men were Cheney and Rove.. let's clean house I guess they thoughts.. get attacked, make up an excuse, never find the guy.. probably one of the team! All to get a foot hold in oil country and especially bases all over the Middle East to protect our "interest" there (oil).

I wonder what really will happen when Obama tries to get us off of oil! I see already the oil people are advertising they are getting in on the "green" deal.. they'll just use lip service and stall like they have been doing for the past 40 years.

To my knowledge there has been no move away from fossil fuel or their use in making plastics for just about everything we use. You know you really never hear that end of it do you? About the plastics? So, see the DVD: "The Oil Factor" The story behind the terrorist attack! You can order through Netflix. Very interesting!

Yeah we'll get more lip out of the oil companies.. and are the American car companies really going under or is everyone waiting in line for a free hand out, I mean bail out, by the government.. so the big shot CEO's can be allowed to stick that in their pockets too - again without regulations or over sight!

I just can't believe the all around crooks we have had in Washington and on wall street.. betting on eocnomic futures.hedge funds, bundling of bad debt and shipping it off to foreign markets...nothing like bringing every body down. I guess the big shot CEO with all the money they stuffed in their pockets before the shit hit the fan are off on some tropical isle basting in the sun. Most of them probably are not even in this country anymore.. well, they have about ruined us (just like idiot Bush) then they just go off somewhere after they have done their damage.. again, they are not held accountable either. I guess if Nancy Peloski and Barney Frank went after the wrong doers in businessess they would have to go after the Bushes, all three, and the rest of the cronies.. they'll probably are not enough jails to hold them all.

I'd say things started going sour with Ken Lay, Bush's Enron buddy. Well, isn't it funny how he conveniently died right before he was scheduled to go to trail...you know he would have drugged in members of the white house.. they were friends.. you know! But, I suspect, he probably is hiding away on some island with all those people's futures in his pockets.. while the poor smucks he left behind to struggle are still struggling. Why? Just how much money do these poor excuses for humans need?

Obama and FDR blog comments.. very interesting

so I'm posting the web page so I can go back and read and re-read.. love history
especially when we just may be re-living a bit of it.. only this time globally:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2008/11/obama_and_fdr.html

Okay, I'm quoting a blog entry by Brooksfoe.. because I really liked it and thought it was brilliantly written.. I even commented to tell him so..
The following is his blog entry!

"The reason conservatives like to bruit this argument about is that trying to end recessions through public works programs is gay, while ending recessions by firebombing enemy cities is manly. Building national parks? Gay. Building B-29s? Manly. It wasn't the fiscal stimulus of WWII that ended the Depression; the Depression ended via a mysterious testosterone-plus-airborne-ordnance alchemical reaction which took place when the boots hit the beaches at Normandy. To solve the current economic crisis, in other words, we must bomb China. Though perhaps bombing Germany and Japan again might do the trick too -- with Toyota and BMW out of the way, Ford and GM might just have a shot at escaping bankruptcy."

Congrats to Brookfoe - I love this! So very well written!




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I'm confused... so researching..thank god for the internet!

cholesterol lowering findings.. read my previous blog.. also, I just may go on the Dr. Atkens high protein diet.. but I'l stick to lean protein and egg whites.

Well this previous articles says our bodies produce cholesterol and if we don't get it in our diets our bodies product more..so. I know I've been getting a low protein diet? I am still researching.

But, I do know that when I have gone on the high protein diet my Cholesterol level went down to well below 200!

For the past two years my weight as been arund 130 and I've been running.. exercising a lot but eating mostly vegetables and fruits and carbs with less protein..less fat! Yes I am not kidding. So I think there is some truth into the prvious post article I've included. Last year my cholesterol was 256 and recently 258! See, my body is producing more cholesterol because I am not getting any in my diet! Thus, the Dr. Atken's diet makes sense and this previous article and book by Karl Loren makes sense! And it's worked for me in the past I've lost weight from 138 to 125 using the Dr. Atkins' diet and I'm going to try it again! Besides I have a constant graving to EAT whereas high protein diet curbs that constant graving to EAT!

So I'll start today with lean chicken and green beans which I have on hand now. I'm getting out my Dr. Atkins book and looking up receipes and I will keep this blog updated with my process! I'm excited.. what me me work...

Okay I was going for a run but I'm hungry I haven't had anything to eat yet today and it's 1:00 PM. So here I go. Oops had a Honey Stinger 35g Carb...(well, that's my carbs for the day) before I began my research and made my decision to go high protein. I'll drink lots of water.

Now I need to run (1:00 PM about) before this soy protein 25g of protein with about 16 oz. water.. wears off.

Wish me lot on my endeavor! I know a few years ago.. I lowered my LDL with Dr. Atkins High Protein diet.. of course I lost weight too.. but it seems natural carbs and little protein is rising my HDL is 73(should be more than 50 for a woman! but also my LDL 160 (130 would be okay)!

Wish me lot! I'll give it six weeks like that stupid Cheerio's commerical!

At this moment, I am not over weight and I exercise like hell! My blood pressure is great! 117/63 check several times.. So, something we very wrong here with a recommended diet of lots of fruits and vegetables and whole grains.. because I've been doing that.......do "they" want me to be on dangerous statins? Read my previous blog.. from earlier today!!

Cholesterol problems?

I found the following at a website:
http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p72.htm

What Is Cholesterol?

As I was preparing this article I wanted to find a "good" definition for "cholesterol." I have heard the terms "LDL," and "HDL" used, but never could get interested in really learning what those words meant.

I'm glad now that I didn't spend more time trying to understand LDL and HDL. The Trolls are grasping at straws. They first said that "high cholesterol" caused death from heart disease. That was easily proven to be false. So, they did what trolls often do, they brought out some new words, more complicated, and said that there was really "good cholesterol" and "bad cholesterol." This puzzled me, and perhaps it puzzles you?

For this article I decided I had to really get to the bottom of this -- and, as I said, I'm glad I waited. Of all the many sources I investigated for an explanation of these words, none of them made sense to me until I found Dr. Uffe's explanation. It is not very technical, and it is VERY good, so I urge you to learn these terms, from the full article I have published HERE:

Your cholesterol tells very little about your future health

Cholesterol is a peculiar molecule. [click here to see a molecular model] It is often called a lipid or a fat.

However, the chemical term for a molecule such as cholesterol is alcohol, although it doesn't behave like alcohol.

Its numerous carbon and hydrogen atoms are put together in an intricate three dimensional network, impossible to dissolve in water. All living creatures use this indissolvability cleverly, incorporating cholesterol into their cell walls to make cells waterproof. This means that cells of living creatures can regulate their internal environment undisturbed by changes in their surroundings, a mechanism vital for proper function. The fact that cells are waterproof is especially critical for the normal functioning of nerves and nerve cells. Thus, the highest concentration of cholesterol in the body is found in the brain and other parts of the nervous system.

Because cholesterol is insoluble in water and thus also in blood, it is transported in our blood inside spherical particles composed of fats (lipids) and proteins, the so-called lipoproteins.

[Karl: Consider these "spherical particles" to be like submarines that contain the cholesterol. The submarines floating along through water (or blood).]

Lipoproteins are easily dissolved in water because their outside is composed mainly of water-soluble proteins. The inside of the lipoproteins is composed of lipids, and here are room for water-insoluble molecules such as cholesterol. Like submarines, lipoproteins carry cholesterol from one place in the body to another.

The submarines, or lipoproteins, have various names according to their density.

The best known are HDL (High Density Lipoprotein), and LDL (Low Density Lipoprotein).

The main task of HDL is to carry cholesterol from the peripheral tissues, including the artery walls, to the liver. Here it is excreted with the bile, or used for other purposes, for instance as a starting point for the manufacture of important hormones.



The LDL submarines mainly transport cholesterol in the opposite direction. They carry it from the liver, where most of our body's cholesterol is produced, to the peripheral tissues, including the vascular walls.

When cells need cholesterol, they call for the LDL submarines, which then deliver cholesterol into the interior of the cells. Most of the cholesterol in the blood, between 60 and 80 per cent, is transported by LDL and is called ”bad” cholesterol, for reasons that I shall explain soon.

Only 15-20 percent is transported by HDL and called ”good” cholesterol.

A small part of the circulating cholesterol is transported by other lipoproteins.

You may ask why a natural substance in our blood, with important biologic functions, is called ”bad” when it is transported from the liver to the peripheral tissues by LDL, but ”good” when it is transported the other way by HDL.

The reason is that a number of follow-up studies have shown that a lower-than-normal level of HDL-cholesterol and a higher than-normal level of LDL-cholesterol are associated with a greater risk of having a heart attack, and conversely, that a higher-than-normal level of HDL-cholesterol and a lower-than normal LDL-cholesterol are associated with a smaller risk. Or, said in another way, a low HDL/LDL ratio is a risk factor for coronary heart disease.

However, a risk factor is not necessarily the same as the cause. Something may provoke a heart attack and at the same time lower the HDL/LDL ratio. Many factors are known to influence this ratio.

[Karl Note: He is very correct here! One of the biggest mistakes medical science makes is to equate "cause" with "effect." In other words, they SEE some effect, and put the label of "cause" on that effect. The label is a lie! The effect that was observed is often accurate. The "label" is a political decision, not a scientific one!]

What is good and what is bad?

People who reduce their body weight also reduce their cholesterol.

In a review of 70 studies Dr. Anne Dattilo and Dr. P.M. Kris-Etherton concluded that, on average, weight reduction lowers cholesterol by about 10 per cent, depending on the degree of the reduction. Interestingly, it is only cholesterol transported by LDL that goes down; the small part transported by HDL goes up. In other words, weight reduction increases the ratio between HDL- and LDL-cholesterol (1).

An increase of the HDL/LDL ratio is called ”favorable” by the diet-heart supporters; cholesterol is changed from ”bad” to ”good”. But is it the ratio or the weight reduction that is favorable?

When we become fat, other harmful things occur to us. One is that our cells become less sensitive to insulin, so that some of us develop diabetes. And people with diabetes are much more likely to have a heart attack than people without diabetes, because atherosclerosis and other vascular damage occur very early in diabetics, even in those without lipid abnormalities. In other words, overweight may increase the risk of a heart attack by mechanisms other than an unfavorable lipid pattern, while at the same time overweight lowers the HDL/LDL ratio.

Also smoking increases cholesterol a little.

Again, it is LDL-cholesterol that increases, while HDL-cholesterol goes down, resulting in an ”unfavorable” HDL/LDL ratio (2).

What is certainly unfavorable is the chronic exposure to the fumes from burning paper and tobacco leaves.

Instead of considering the low HDL/LDL ratio as bad it could simply be smoking itself that is bad. Smoking may provoke a heart attack and, at the same time, lower the HDL/LDL ratio.

Exercise decreases the bad LDL-cholesterol and increases the ”good” HDL-cholesterol (3).

In well-trained individuals the ”good” HDL is increased considerably. In a comparison between distance runners and sedentary individuals, Dr. Paul D. Thompson and his colleagues found that the athletes on average had a 41 per cent higher HDL-cholesterol level (4).

Most population studies have shown that physical exercise is associated with a lower risk of coronary heart disease, and a sedentary life with a higher risk. It also seems plausible that a well-trained heart is better guarded against obstruction of the coronary vessels than a heart always working at low speed.

A sedentary life may predispose people to a heart attack and, at the same time, lower the HDL/LDL ratio.

A low ratio is also associated with high blood pressure (5). Most probably, the hypertensive effect is created by the sympathetic nerve system, which is often overstimulated in hypertensive patients. Hypertension (or too much adrenalin) may provoke a heart attack, for instance by inducing spasm of the coronary arteries or by stimulating the arterial muscle cells to proliferate, and, at the same time, lower the HDL/LDL ratio. [There is more to this data -- click here for the full article by Dr. Uffe.]

Well, you know, now that the only difference between HDL and LDL is the DIRECTION IN WHICH THE STUFF IS MOVING! I'll bet you've never seen that explanation before?


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What Did You Miss?

By now you are wondering, What am I missing? Who said that margarine was safe and butter dangerous? Why should the government try to eliminate butter from the marketplace? You can see, above, that the government is helping the cottonseed people promote the value of their margarine against butter, on the basis of some sort of danger in butter.

What was the scientific basis for such claims?

Now, you have to go back in time to 1948 when the master planners secretly got some very early government money to start proving that butter was dangerous and margarine was safe and good for you. This very desirable conclusion, from their point of view, required two earlier inconvenient facts to be proven false:

First, it had been well established that cholesterol in the blood stream did not cause death from heart disease. If the master planners were to sell their oil they would have to reverse this truth.

Second, it had been well established that cholesterol in your diet did not cause cholesterol in your blood stream. It the master planners were to sell their oil they would have to reverse this truth.

The master planners concluded:

1. There needed to be research showing that high cholesterol in the blood caused death from heart disease.

The cholesterol myth started in 1913 when a Russian scientist, Dr. Nikolai Anitschkov, fed rabbits massive amounts of cholesterol -- the rabbits died of heart disease. Click here for more about this misleading study.

Later scientists, who had a point they wanted to prove, often quote these studies as the first proof that dietary cholesterol causes heart disease. It isn’t that these studies, in 1913, were so scientifically conducted, it was simply that they represent a historical foundation. If a scientist, today, wants to claim that dietary cholesterol causes high blood cholesterol and that that is the cause of heart disease, he will cite all sorts of studies, but in order to get some historical legitimacy he will often cite the 1913 study.

The 1913 study done by the Russian simply ignores the fact that rabbits are vegetarians and that their bodies cannot handle animal fat.

As my friend Dr. Mendelsohn would say, The Russian study proves conclusively that you should not feed butter to rabbits!

Today’s master planners will start off citing the rabbit study, but omit the fact that there were rabbits involved, or fail to mention that rabbits can’t use animal products in their diet -- they die! One of the most misleading of these is Dr. Kenneth H. Cooper:

With Anitschkov’s experiments, however, the connection between cholesterol-laden foods and hardening of the arteries began to be much clearer. Click here for more about Dr. Cooper.

2. Then, there was need for research which would show that a diet which is high in cholesterol (eggs and butter) would cause high cholesterol levels in the blood.

This second research need would have seemed insurmountable to any honest researcher. There were, by 1970, literally dozens of well-done scientific studies which showed the exact opposite -- that cholesterol in the diet had no significant effect on cholesterol in the blood stream.

The master planners have succeeded, as you realize. Health care costs go up, not for health, but for the profits of the drug industry. Click here to read one of the latest stories -- how health care will soon be at $3 trillion dollars per year -- about 17% of the entire GDP. Dr. Scott Grundy was the hidden author of the diet that is killing America! Dr. Grundy is still doing it -- click here for a recent article. Click here for his biographical information.

How did they do that?

One of these master planners was Dr. Daniel Steinberg. Dr. Steinberg could be called the father of death by cholesterol lies. Click here for a recent claim by him. But, he has also been whitewashed -- made to look respectable. Click here to read an interview in which he, now, endorses vitamins as a preventive for heart disease. The whitewasher should have known better. But, for a more candid view of Dr. Steinberg's real position, click here. I covered Dr. Steinberg, and the entire cholesterol lie in Chapter Five of my Book -- beware there is some heavy stuff here.


Dr. Steinberg was a physician who worked on cholesterol drug research at the University of California at San Diego. He was the Chairman of the Conference and cut off any speaker who criticized the lie that was being launched. He may wish to forget this, or hide it, but those who were there will remember. This "conference" was NOT administered in the way prescribed by the rules!

Another master planner was Dr. Robert I. Levy of Columbia University. In 1973, Levy was named director of NHLBI's extramural Division of Heart and Vascular Diseases where he coordinated a network of Lipid Research Clinics (LRC) to carry out research on blood-lipid abnormalities.

Another master planner was Dr. Richard Peto, an Oxford University epidemiologist. Review of dozens of scientific studies for which he gets credit do not include this infamous period when he contributed to the lies about cholesterol. He is another who hides his past -- as those guards at Nuremberg who, found after 50 years, claim that it was just too long ago for them to be brought to justice.

Technically, the head master planner would have been Dr. Basil M. Rifkind. He presented false data to the Conference and Dr. Steinberg cut off any debate on it. Dr. Rifkind had taken over from Dr. Steinberg, in some flawed research referred to as the Coronary Primary Prevention Trial, CPPT, of which more later. (Dr. Rifkind has been active spreading lies and preventing truth even a few years ago. He has not disappeared! But he lost out to the other trolls in prestige. )

Here is a quote from another researcher on this subject. Click here to read the entire report:

LRC [Lipid Research Clinics] researchers claimed that the group taking the cholesterol-lowering drug had a 17 per cent reduction in the rate of CHD [coronary heart disease], with an average cholesterol reduction of 8.5 per cent. This allowed LRC trials Director Basil Rifkind to claim that "for each 1% reduction in cholesterol, we can expect a 2% reduction in CHD events".

The statement was widely circulated, even though it represented a completely invalid representation of the data - especially in light of the fact that when the University of Maryland lipid group analyzed the LRC data, they found no difference in CHD events between the group taking the drug and those on the placebo.


There is much more to this complete story. It is all among the links on this page and in the several Chapters of my Book, Life Flow One, The Solution For Heart Disease. I urge you to study further.

I am not including HERE much of the corrupt history of the Framingham Studies -- all of that data is in my Book.

Here is part of that, however, from THIS SOURCE:

The ongoing Framingham Study found that there was virtually no difference in coronary heart disease (CHD) "events" for individuals with cholesterol levels between 205 mg/dL and 294 mg/dL - the vast majority of the US population. Even for those with extremely high cholesterol levels - up to almost 1,200 mg/dL - the difference in CHD events compared to those in the normal range was trivial. This did not prevent Dr William Kannel, then Framingham Study Director, from making claims about the Framingham results. "Total plasma cholesterol," he said, "is a powerful predictor of death related to CHD."

It was not until more than a decade later, in 1992, that the real findings at Framingham were published - without fanfare - in the Archives of Internal Medicine, an obscure journal. "In Framingham, Massachusetts," admitted Dr William Castelli, Kannel's successor, "the more saturated fat one ate, the more cholesterol one ate, the more calories one ate, the lower people's serum cholesterol ... we found that the people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, weighed the least and were the most physically active."

Corruption Within The Heart, Lung And Blood Institute
Another Troll, Dr. Lenfant has been part of the corruption within the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute which allowed cholestyramine to be sanctioned as the first officially recommended cholesterol-lowering drug by the government. This stuff was so unpleasant in taste that when it was tested the researchers allowed for the possibility that up to 35% of the people taking it would refuse to continue. A large percentage of people who were supposed to be part of the official scientific trial of this stuff refused to take it. The cholesterol-lowering effect was also much less than they needed to substantiate its use. Dr. Lenfant ALSO changed the way blood pressure is measure and doomed us to decades of harmful drugs thereby. Click to learn more on that one!

Cholestyramine continues to be still available for sale -- under the brand name Questran, marketed by Bristol Laboratories.

Merck Sharp & Dohme's drug lovastatin (Mevacor) later became the drug officially sanctioned by the United States Government, and the one, had the master planners had their way, which you would have been forced to take, even against your will. (Source)

I am not including HERE more evidence of corruption at the National Heart, Blood, and Lung Institute. For the purposes of this article THIS was the group that approved a cholesterol-lowering drug even though the study showed that it had no value.

There is so much more!

Even if YOU are not taking a cholesterol-lowering drug, there are millions of others, around you, who are taking Lipitor and others. They have swallowed the lies of these trolls -- you can help some of them. Give them a copy of this material, ask them to read it. Some will.

The world doesn't much seem that it wants to be saved! But, here and there, among the many, are the few who are aware enough to seek out the truth and test it, then apply it.


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Dr. Uffe Ravnskov Demolishes The Cholesterol Myths!

As I prepared to write this major research report about cholesterol I spent many hours looking for a "good" definition and description of cholesterol. Many of the results of my searches are among these pages, but none of those ever satisfied me. When I found THIS article, by Dr. Ravnskov, I was instantly amazed at the simplicity and thoroughness of the explanation. Thus I am now using THIS reference to "cholesterol" as my central focus for the simple definition and description of this term. I have taken the liberty, further, of adding comments within this article to point out information that I think needs further detail or emphasis. I also found Dr. Ravnskov's Book on this subject and have one illustrative Chapter from that book, excerpted below or the whole Chapter -- click here.

Did you know. . .

. . . that cholesterol is not a deadly poison, but a substance vital to the cells of all mammals?

. . . that your body produces three to four times more cholesterol than you eat?

. . . that this production increases when you eat only small amounts of cholesterol and decreases when you eat large amounts?

. . . that the "prudent" diet, low in saturated fat and cholesterol, cannot lower your cholesterol more than a small percentage?

. . . that the only effective way to lower cholesterol is with drugs?

. . . that many of the cholesterol-lowering drugs are dangerous to your health and may shorten your life?

. . . that the new cholesterol-lowering drugs, called statins, do lower heart-disease mortality, but this is because of effects other than cholesterol lowering? Unfortunately, they also stimulate cancer, at least in rodents.

. . . that you may become aggressive or suicidal if you lower your cholesterol too much?

. . . that polyunsaturated fatty acids, those which are claimed to prevent heart attacks, stimulate infections and cancer in rats?

. . . that if you eat too much polyunsaturated oil you will age faster than normal? You will see this on the outside as wrinkled skin. You can’t see the effects of premature aging on the inside of your body, but you will certainly feel them.

. . . that too much polyunsaturated oil may provoke atherosclerosis?

. . . that people whose blood cholesterol is low develop just as many plaques in their blood vessels as people whose cholesterol is high?

. . . that more than thirty studies of more than 150,000 individuals have shown that people who have had a heart attack haven’t eaten more saturated fat or less polyunsaturated oil than other people?

. . . that old women with high cholesterol live longer than old women with low cholesterol?

. . . that many of these facts have been presented in scientific journals and books for decades but proponents of the diet heart hypothesis never tell them to the public?

. . . that the diet-heart idea and the cholesterol campaign create immense prosperity for researchers, doctors, drug producers and the food industry?

Dr. Uffe has also written THIS about cholesterol.


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Dr. Claude Lenfant -- Master Planner -- Corrupter of Truth -- Troll!
Here is Congressional Testimony by Dr. Claude Lenfant, Director of the National Heart, Blood & Lung Institute -- one of the major trolls responsible for millions of deaths in the United States and the rest of the world. Click here to read his verbal testimony, and click here to read his "prepared statements." Here is an evil person.

"During the 1950s, it was observed that a patient who was receiving chelation therapy for lead poisoning coincidentally experienced relief of angina symptoms. Since that time, many patients have sought and received chelation therapy for atherosclerosis, a "hardening of the arteries" that leads to heart disease and stroke. One theory behind using chelation to treat this disease is that it may remove calcium, which is present in some atherosclerotic lesions, and therefore decrease the obstruction in the arteries.

"The patient receives repeated intravenous infusions of the drug EDTA that, some believe, grasps the calcium and pulls it from the area of obstruction."

This last statement by Dr. Claude Lenfant is, of course, absolutely false -- Lenfant is repeating it because many IV doctors, foolishly, still say this same thing!

The lies started by the trolls have spread world-wide. CLICK HERE for an interesting, if covert, message from an Associate Professor in Japan -- a man who finds fault with my article about cholesterol.

Who are the "some" he quotes? The foolish ACAM doctors! I wrote about this many months ago -- unfortunately it remains true. The IV doctors are their own worst enemies!

Notice, here, how ACAM has harmed itself. ACAM has continued to refuse to recognize that EDTA removes metals, and that metals cause free radical multiplication, and that free radicals cause heart disease. Thus, a scientist or doctor, like Dr. Lenfant, can shoot holes in the EDTA therapy simply by alluding to the foolishness of EDTA directly affecting calcium. Thus, Lenfant brings up the handling of calcium by EDTA when he knows, full well, that is NOT how it works, and the ACAM doctors are stuck in their own corner -- not willing or able to speak the truth about their own specialty!]

"However, others believe that when EDTA is administered intravenously, it encounters and binds with calcium circulating in the blood, and not with any calcium that may exist in the atherosclerotic lesions. According to this view chelation therapy not only may be ineffective in reversing atherosclerosis, but also may expose the patient to risk by depleting the body of calcium and other essential nutrients. "

Another foolish straw man put up by Lenfant, so he could knock it down -- Oh! What an evil man this is!

"There is, in fact, no sound evidence that EDTA chelation therapy is effective or has clinical benefit for atherosclerosis. For nearly three decades, the NHLBI has carefully followed the scientific literature on this issue. Our thorough and critical review of the published literature on EDTA chelation, which includes numerous case studies and testimonials, identified only two scientifically rigorous clinical trials, neither of which found any benefit of the therapy."


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The Original Troll Slayer -- Thomas Moore
Here is the man who started it all -- writing the brave Book, now out of print, "Heart Failure."

Click here for one of the most powerful Chapters from his Book.

It was Mr. Moore's book that got ME, Karl Loren, passionate about writing my own Book on heart disease. Mr. Moore has done a major service to mankind. Unfortunately his Book got him into enough trouble that he has not continued writing along that line -- the pressures involved here must be measured in the many, many billions of dollars.

His Book is out of print! Few remember it!

The cholesterol-lowering drugs are the single largest category of profitable drugs. Every drug company is in on the act. If Mr. Moore's Book had been accepted as true, and his truth spread through the "news media" then literally billions of dollars of drug company profits would have been lost and some millions of Americans would not have died when they did.

Click here for a page that describes his Book, for sale, if you can find one.

Mr. Moore's Book can take credit for saving many lives, as shown here:

The death rate on the operating table, from bypass surgery, varies from 1% to as high as 25% depending on what doctor holds the knife. The differences used to be greater, but publicity started by Thomas Moore’s book, Heart Failure, forced several hospitals to transfer (rather than to report to the police for murder) those surgeons whose death rates were too high. But, the average death rate, under the knife, is about 5%. (Source)

Mr. Moore is also the man who exposed this false information:

In 1971 these master planners formed the Task Force on Arteriosclerosis. The terrible story behind this corrupt group is very well told by Thomas Moore in his Book, Heart Failure.

Over many pages, in great detail, Mr. Moore reports on individual master planners. There was a peak in their activities, in December, 1984, when they formed the Consensus Development Conference. The previous link is for a description of the process, itself -- a "consensus development conference." Click Here to see the actual document from the 1984 Conference.


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Another Slayer Of Trolls

Sally Fallon and Dr. Mary Enig are two others who have been battling the cholesterol trolls! Mary, unlike Dr. Uffe, has named the names of the trolls in her writings. She hasn't told the whole story about butter and margarine, but she has done more investigative work on the actual sources of the cholesterol lies than any other person, except me and Mr. Moore, author of "Heart Failure."

Here is a full story about the cholesterol myths, and the constant rejection by so-called serious publications to print the truth about cholesterol. The full report by Dr. Enig and Ms. Fallon is HERE.


The problem with the 40 years of NHLBI-sponsored research on lipids, cholesterol and heart disease was that it had not produced many answers—at least not many answers that the NHLBI was pleased with. The ongoing Framingham Study found that there was virtually no difference in coronary heart disease "events" for individuals with cholesterol levels between 205 mg/dL and 294 mg/dL—the vast majority of the US population. Even for those with extremely high cholesterol levels—up to almost 1200 mg/dL, the difference in CHD events compared to those in the normal range was trivial.29 This did not prevent Dr. William Kannel, then Framingham Study Director, from making claims about the Framingham results. "Total plasma cholesterol" he said, "is a powerful predictor of death related to CHD." It wasn’t until more than a decade later that the real findings at Framingham were published—without fanfare—in the Archives of Internal Medicine, an obscure journal. "In Framingham, Massachusetts," admitted Dr. William Castelli, Kannel’s successor "the more saturated fat one ate, the more cholesterol one ate, the more calories one ate, the lower people’s serum cholesterol. . . we found that the people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturated fat, ate the most calories weighed the least and were the most physically active." (source)

Mary Enig, alone, has also publicized that something called "trans-fatty acids" are much more found in margarine than in butter, and that these trans-fatty acids are very harmful.

The final results of Enig's ground-breaking compilation were published in the October 1983 edition of the Journal of the American Oil Chemists' Society. Her analyses of more than 220 food items, coupled with food disappearance data, allowed University of Maryland researchers to confirm earlier estimates that the average American consumed at least 12 grams of trans fat per day - directly contradicting ISEO assertions that most Americans consumed no more that 6 to 8 grams of trans fat per day. Those who consciously avoided animal fats typically consumed far more than 12 grams of trans fat per day. (Source)

Click here for a German language condemnation of cholesterol as having anything to do with heart disease.

One method of selling more of these useless, even harmful, drugs is for the drug companies to apply to the FDA for permission to sell their drugs "over the counter" rather than through prescription.

That is finally happening, in 2005.

Should cholesterol-lowering statins, the biggest selling drugs in the world, be available to consumers as easily as aspirin -- on drugstore shelves without a prescription?

A joint venture between Merck & Co. and Johnson & Johnson is asking for permission to sell a 20-milligram dose of Merck's Mevacor over-the-counter, arguing that the step would extend the benefits of the drugs to potentially millions of patients who currently aren't taking them. (Source)

Before they tried to shift these drugs to "OTC" status, it had became obvious that cholesterol was NOT responsible for heart disease, the trolls came up with the concept of "good cholesterol" and "bad cholesterol. Click one on of the links below for what a famous scientist has to say about that one! That is demolished as valid science by all those exposing the old cholesterol myth. But, there is now a brand new culprit in the heart disease arena. It is now "C-Reactive Protein." You can click here to learn about it, but what you really should know about it is that it is what will gradually push cholesterol off the medical claims pages. Here are some of the references on THIS web site:

American Heart Association -- On C Reactive Proteins
... Source Inflammation, Heart Disease and Stroke: The Role of C-Reactive
Protein. ... What is the role of C-reactive protein in predicting risk? ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/PreventCancer/p109.htm - 49k - Cached - Similar pages

Vulnerable Plaque -- The New Kid On The Block!
... In this case Garry found a very specially refined version of Cat's Claw
that is far, far better at reducing C Reactive Protein levels. ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p204.htm - 63k - Cached - Similar pages

Fuster -- Clinical Frontiers in Atherosclerosis Research: ...
... a program in which patients with two measured risk factors and either a high level
of tissue factor activity in the blood or C-reactive protein undergo ultra ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/GarryGordon/ KarlLorenResearch/p8.html - 90k - Cached - Similar pages

Note Fifteen Dr. Garry Gordon Lecture
... 2. C Reactive Protein In this lecture Garry talks about C Reactive Protein. ... Other
pages where I describe this C Reactive Protein are HERE: ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/GarryGordon/ GarryGordonLectures/note15.html - 83k - Cached - Similar pages

If I Were Vice President Dick Cheney's Physician. . .
... This means we must measure levels of things like C-reactive protein, fibrinogen,
homocysteine, antibodies to oxidized LDL, vascular cell adhesion molecules ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/GarryGordon/ ChelationResearch/p3.htm - 62k - Cached - Similar pages

Dr. Ron Kennedy Interview With Dr. Garry Gordon
... Professional, who should provide a complete evaluation, including all the proper
lab tests such as Homocysteine and C-reactive protein, platelet aggregation ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/GarryGordon/ ChelationResearch/p33.htm - 60k - Cached - Similar pages

ORAL CHELATION – THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY by Dr. Garry F. ...
... inflammatory therapy to deal with the newly recognized molecular risk factors such
as fibrinogen, ultra sensitive C-reactive protein, Intracellular Adhesion ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/anatomy/p63.htm - 51k - Cached - Similar pages

New Study Shows Protein Boosts Heart-Disease Risks -- WSJ
... Why? Because they found a reason, other than cholesterol, for heart attacks --
some mysterious new danger -- C-Reactive Protein. ... Source. C-REACTIVE PROTEIN ...
www.chelationtherapyonline.com/PreventCancer/p108.htm - 59k - Cached - Similar pages

In other words, the medics will never admit they were "wrong" about cholesterol, but they will now start talking about this "new thing" until cholesterol is just old news, and the "new science" suggests that "C Reactive Protein" is REALLY the problem. Here is an excerpt from the Wall Street Journal, one year after the above references, showing that, indeed, C Reactive Protein IS the new problem -- sliding the always-false cholesterol scare further down the scale of people's awareness.

Here comes the Wall Street Journal, one of the final endorsements of false drug science -- validating the importance of "C-Reactive Protein" (whatever that may be) and making you comfortable with the "false fact" that your Lipitor is still effective, but that it is now found to be effective against a new villain -- now that the old villain is proven false. (Source)

Wall Street Journal:

In findings that could change medical care for heart patients and spur a new wave of drug development, two research groups reported compelling new evidence in the effort to prevent heart attacks: Reducing levels of a protein known as CRP may be just as important as fighting cholesterol.

Cardiologists who led the studies said the findings are likely to transform how doctors think about and use cholesterol-lowering statins, the world's top-selling class of drugs and a major weapon against the ravages of cardiovascular disease.

The results also amount to the strongest evidence yet that CRP, or c-reactive protein, is a cause of heart disease. That is likely to spur already heightened interest among drug companies to develop other medicines that would reduce levels of CRP. (Source)

C Reactive Protein is just another symptom of heart disease caused by free radical damage to the cells in the arteries. For some years into the future you will see cholesterol being minimized and C Reactive Protein being emphasized.

It is planned!

Another slayer of trolls is Dr. Elmer Cranton, who wrote:

A recent multi-country study in Europe, funded by the World Health Organization, showed that low blood levels of vitamin E are statistically 100 times more significant as a predictor of coronary heart disease than are high blood levels of cholesterol.(141). In another report, all published autopsy studies that correlated the extent of atheromatous arterial plaque with levels of blood cholesterol were reviewed. Surgical specimens removed at the time of bypass surgery were also analyzed. After eliminating data from those few individuals with a hereditary form of extremely high cholesterol (above 400 mg/dL), no correlation was found between blood cholesterol levels and the severity of atherosclerosis.(142) The author stated that prior studies falsely concluded that blood cholesterol levels correlated with atherosclerosis because of failure to eliminate those occasional individuals with extremely high cholesterol caused by a lethal genetic mutation. (source)


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The National Cholesterol Education Program -- Dr. James Cleeman -- Troll!
Dr. Cleeman was chosen many years ago to head the campaign to sell lies to the American public. He has bragged of how successful he has been. He is a troll --- guilty of preying on humans by spreading false information that has caused millions of Americans to abandon the diet of their grandparents and enrich the pockets of the margarine makers and the cholesterol-lowering drug people. he is a troll, indeed.

Here is a quote from the Book, Heart Failure, by Thomas Moore:

ONE MORNING IN EARLY OCTOBER OF 1987 THE U.S. health authorities announced that 25 percent of the adult population had a dangerous condition requiring medical treatment. Since there were no symptoms, it would be necessary to screen the entire population to identify those in danger. More than half of those screened would be dispatched to their physicians for medical tests and evaluation. Then for one out of four adults treatment would begin. The first step would be a strict diet under medical supervision. If within three months the dieting had not achieved specified results that could be verified by laboratory tests, a more severe diet would be imposed. The final step for many patients would be powerful drugs to be taken for the rest of their lives. (Source)

You have probably read a few "conspiracy stories" or at least been exposed to them?

I've noticed that as exciting as they often are, they are very short on the type of details you can check out -- yourself. Yet, Dr. Cleeman is STILL the head of this "educational program" and he has been in the news, with his picture and title, recently. He exists. I say to you that he is one of the terrible trolls -- that is my opinion. What is yours?

The Current Scene

The popular media in the United States continue to spread these lies, as shown in the cover of Newsweek for July 13, 2003, and the related story:

Welcome to the age of statins. If you aren’t taking a cholesterol-lowering drug yourself, chances are you know someone who is. And it’s not necessarily an overweight, out-of-shape sports fan in his 50s who ventures off the couch only in search of chips and beer. An estimated 12 million to 15 million American adults of every age and description—from Gen-Xers to their octogenarian grandparents—depend on America’s most popular prescription drugs to scour their bloodstreams of LDL cholesterol, the waxy goo that can block arteries and cause heart attacks and strokes. And, according to federal health guidelines, 21 million more Americans should be taking statins to help ward off cardiovascular disease. Statins have become so critical in the war against cholesterol that a leading statin researcher compares them to the ultimate miracle med. Says Dr. Rory Collins of Oxford University: “Statins are the new aspirin.” (source)


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The Final Objective -- Drugging America Into Submissive Apathy! -- The Trolls Are Winning!

First the trolls wanted to convince you that butter was dangerous. Then they wanted you to change your diet -- Dr. Scott Grundy was the architect of that diet -- hidden behind the walls of the American Heart Association at the time. Just a short while ago he was the one to announce to America that the "danger level" for cholesterol had just been reduced, and that another 20+ million people now must take a cholesterol-lowering drug. I wrote about that in a Wednesday Letter -- HERE. The American Heart Association, of course, continues to spread the lies -- click here.

Then they convinced you that your high cholesterol was because you were weak and unable to stick to their diet. So, they then suggested you might have to take a cholesterol-lowering drug for the rest of your life! They have succeeded. If the drug didn't work, then bypass surgery, another fraud, was ready for you.

They may have succeeded with society as a whole, but YOU, as an individual, can still escape the clutches of these trolls -- the truth is what you need to set you free!

The sales of just ONE of the cholesterol-lowering drugs, Lipitor, climbed 28% from 1999 to 2000, as reported in the Wall Street Journal:

During the period under investigation, Lipitor was owned by Warner-Lambert Co., which co-marketed the drug with Pfizer. In 2000, Pfizer completed a hostile takeover of Warner-Lambert, in large measure to gain complete control over Lipitor, which is the New York-based company's biggest seller and most important drug. Last year, Pfizer reported Lipitor sales of $6.45 billion, a 28% increase compared with 2000. Source

and another quote from the WSJ on March 29, 2002. Lipitor is the NUMBER ONE drug in sales:

WASHINGTON -- Spending on prescription drugs jumped 17% last year, raising concerns about further big increases in health-insurance premiums and steeper pharmacy bills for those without drug coverage.

The National Institute for Health Care Management Foundation said in a report to be released Friday that spending rose sharply because more people are using prescription drugs, more people are buying more expensive drugs and prescription-drug prices in general are rising faster than the cost of living. Source


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If the Test Results are Too Low -- Change The Tests!

The terrible truth that 50% of all those who have had heart attacks had "normal" cholesterol OUGHT to teach these fools that high cholesterol is NOT associated with the cause of heart disease. This page is that major article by me, Karl Loren. But, when the observations don't fit the theory, then you invent new and different tests -- that the "normal tests" for cholesterol must be "wrong." Then, all you have to do is design a new test that shows more people with high cholesterol, so you can then scare them into taking more Lipitor. There is no end to the evil in this business!

This VAP test is another complete fraud in the largest medical industrial business in the world -- heart disease!

There is another change of the ground rules. Originally the "safe" level of cholesterol was set at the apparent "national average" of 200. When that hasn't sold enough Lipitor, the great gods of science decided to change the level at which cholesterol would be considered dangerous. You understand this is all trash science!



New Government Cholesterol Standards Would Triple Number of Prescriptions (May 2001)

Rarely have so few doctors recommended so many drugs for so many people -- virtually overnight.

For the first time in eight years, the federal government has published new cholesterol standards. If the more rigorous guidelines are widely followed, doctors could end up writing a stack of prescriptions that would nearly triple -- to 36 million people -- the number of Americans on cholesterol-lowering drugs.

The recommendations would put fully 18% of American adults on "statin" drugs like Pfizer Inc.'s Lipitor, Merck & Co.'s Zocor and Bristol-Myers Squibb Co.'s Pravachol. And the new guidelines could theoretically triple U.S. sales of these medicines to nearly $30 billion a year.

The standards come from the National Cholesterol Education Program's expert committee on cholesterol, and they are published in this week's Journal of the American Medical Association. The quasigovernmental group was appointed by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which is part of the National Institutes of Health.

Under the guidelines, anyone who already has coronary artery disease and whose LDL, or "bad," cholesterol is above 130 generally should be on drug therapy. "We used to say to try lowering it with diet first, but now we say that if your LDL is above 130 and you have coronary disease, you should be on drug therapy," says the committee's chairman, Scott M. Grundy, director of the center for human nutrition of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas.

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Some doctors suggest the financial ties of some committee members may have played a role in the emphasis on drug therapy. Five of the 14 panel members were consultants to -- or received honorariums from -- Pfizer, Merck, Bristol-Myers or other companies, including AstraZeneca PLC, maker of the experimental drug Crestor, which may be the most powerful cholesterol drug yet. "This whole program has the flavor of a drug industry/NIH cabal," says Sidney Wolfe, director of the Health Research Group of Public Citizen, a Washington-based consumer advocacy group. "The fundamental principles are correct, but it seems like they are pushing too hard toward drug therapy." [Source]

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Depth Of Research -- Enormous!

I, Karl Loren, have spent more time researching this article than any other newsletter I've written.

I have published literally hundreds of NEW pages, in addition to the thousands of previously published pages about the cholesterol myth.

You won't find a more complete story about the fraud of cholesterol claims by the trolls anywhere else on the planet. This newsletter, when printed on paper will take about 31 pages, but there are literally HUNDREDS of more pages linked from this one newsletter.

I urge you to take the time to read it all. Make a copy for your hard disk! Who knows whether it might not just be deleted from here???

Why?

Because you are one of the very tiny number who are learning the truth about cholesterol -- because you have a responsibility to your family, friends, neighbors and mankind to help spread this truth. Evil is a real force on this planet. The drug companies making $10 BILLION per year in sales of a worthless drug? Do you think they might use some illegal means to clamp down on this story?

I invite you to write to me, Karl Loren, personally, to tell me what you think of this information. CLICK HERE to go to the message page -- write to me. I will respond, personally, and will publish your opinion, questions, comments on a page located HERE.


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Research References

This Wednesday Letter is one of the most heavily researched writing projects that I, Karl Loren, have ever undertaken. There are probably at least 3,000 pages among my 12 web sites that deal in one way or another with the subject of "cholesterol," and probably a few hundred were added JUST BECAUSE of my research for this article.

Not too many of my readers will want to spend the dozens of hours going through all these pages, but some might, and some might like to know that this resource is available anytime they want to take a look. The article above includes many links to other sections and pages. The most important of these many pages, and others, are now shown below.

You may well run into some doctor or other person who simply dismisses the claim I make: "Cholesterol is not a factor in predicting heart disease -- the entire campaign to get people to take cholesterol-lowering drugs is a fraud!" But, challenge any of these people to read through these references, write to me, Karl Loren, personally, as they may wish to refute anything they find, and see if they can continue with their foolish false notion about cholesterol.

All the links below are among the 15,000 pages and 12 web sites published by me, Karl Loren.

One index page contains many links to other pages on the subject of cholesterol. This index page would be a good place to take a look at, glance over the many titles of other web pages, and click on any that interest you. This page is located at: http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/indexcholesterol.htm

One particular web site has several very useful references to cholesterol:

Study HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor & Cholesterol

CHOLESTEROL DRUGS - - A DEATH SENTENCE?

Report Favors Cholesterol Drugs, But Doctors Say Diet Is Effective

Cholesterol-Lowering Drug's Arrival Has Drug Industry Hearts Pounding

Low Cholesterol Levels May Be Linked To Depression, Anxiety

Half the people who have heart attacks have normal cholesterol!

Any serious researcher, wanting to get full advantage of my 15,000 pages, should read how the Google search feature works on these web sites. The Google search feature, on every page on these webs, allows you to search for any word or phrase on any one of the 12 web sites -- the search is very fast and helpful. Go to the one page that describes all the features of using the Google Search: http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/google1.htm

Using the Google Search feature with the word "cholesterol" gives a very large number of link references on each of several webs. Take a look:

A Google Search For "Cholesterol" On Heart-Disease-Bypass-Surgery Web Site

A Google Search For "Cholesterol" on the Oral Chelation Net Web Site

A Google Search For "Cholesterol" on the Oral Chelation Com Web Site

A special edition of The Wednesday Letter, about the change in the level of cholesterol considered to be dangerous - so that 36 million more Americans need drugs: http://www.oralchelation.com/wednesday/previous/2001/SpecialEdition21May2001.htm

Three of the Chapters in my Book, Life Flow One, The Solution For Heart Disease, deal with the cholesterol mysth -- they are partially quoted in this article, but the original and full details are available here:

Section Two: Cholesterol Chapter Three: Butter Vs. Margarine

Chapter Four -- The Cholesterol Corruption

Chapter Five -- The Official Lie

There are more than 100 individual scientific studies about cholesterol on my web pages. They are mentioned in one of the above references, but they are so useful to the serious researcher that they warrant separate mention here. These are pages that can no longer be obtained in any of the current search engine, except on a very pain-staking one-at-a-time basis:

100 Studies on Cholesterol: http://www.oralchelation.net/data/Cholesterol/data11.htm sdfsdf

56 Studies on Cholesterol: http://www.oralchelation.net/heartdisease/ChapterFive/page5p.htm

200 Studies on Cholesterol: http://www.oralchelation.net/data/Cholesterol/data11b.htm

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thanks for the faith of HATE

Preachers who get up in church and damn the gay and order their people to vote for Proposition 8 in California to ban gay marriage! are ass holes! And their stupid parishoners voting for it because the stupid ass preacher said he could get thrown in jail for speaking out and not marrying gay people if the prosposition didn't get passed and gays were permitted to "marry" are ass holes too! There! You hate me I hate you! How does it feel! I'm a lesbian and I'm pissed as hell!

I hate Chrisitans and their bigoted preachers! How dare you in the name of the creator, who created me, a lesbian, dare speak out against the creator.. like you know better? Like god makes mistakes. Just what have we done to you? Just how egotisticial and hypocritical are you? How dare you? Who will you discriminate against next?

First of all state and church are supposed to be separate! I am a tax payer.. I pay for the same rights that you straight people pay for - all those thousands of benefits that married people get to benefit from.. we don't because we can't get married.. only because you are bigoted and buy the government? Just how do you get away with being tax exempt is what I want to know... chruches should should pay their damn taxes like everybody else especially if they are going to preach and dictate policy? Where do you think you get the right to amend the consitituion or try too!

Preachers have told their parishioner that the state will have to teach homosexual in schools and they too don't want their precious "marriage" shit shared by gay people.. like we have a contagious disease! I'm using strong language today because I am very angry!

Where do straight people have the audacity and the gall to look down on gay people? Where? From preachers who have decided to claim themselves god! GOD created me.. in his own image and likeness..I learned that in Catholic school. God didn't discriminate. So why are these preachers? Are they theselves gay and struggling with it??

People this is what ruins a democrarcy - bigotry and biasis and one-up-man-ship! I hate Christian holier than though and lies to the parishioners that they could be arrested if they preach against gay teachings. For one thing the preachers lied.. schools would not be forced to "teach" homosexuality!

And usually the loudest anti-gay preacher.. is gay himself and struggling with it! Like Ted Haggart types! And hypocritical types like Larry Craig who marry for show and then live the "down low" life. There are many men out there who are married and sneaking around with other men for sex..

I'm just very tired of all this crap! Can't we just love one another? Isn't that what GOD, really intended.. We gays were put here so you ass hole Christians could learn a lesson or two I guess but so far it doesn't seem to be taking..

So, gays have to suffer because of Christian stupid bigotry and ignorance! I swear to god, these preachers must be gay themselves because otherwise why would they even care! I hate Christians! They live in a harrow tunnel with blinders on.. they are so perfect and everyone else is a lesser human! They live in the suburbs because they are better than minority groups. They won't right the Metro but drive gas guzzling SUV for show.. oh we're rich and we're right and we can flip out these babies like no bodies business! Because we are perfect!

Remember the Christian Crusades? They killed people who rejected Christianity! Oh, but their anti-abortion! Oh please! Yeah the rest of the world are sinners if they don't follow the Christian puppet path of most holier than god preachers! May all their children be gay!

You know it like kids: I won't play with you because my mom and dad say you are different! I'm better than you. Your parents don't make as much money as mine! Your clothes aren't as pretty and store bought like mine! See this is what I'm saying. Chrisitans are the damest biggest hypocrites, evil doers that there are. More wars were caused over religion.. more deaths! And their business of realigion is tax exempt! Do you believe that?

They preach hate.. there really is no need for any religion in this country? Why, Sprituality is free! We are all spirits living here on earth as human beings! We we read and learn about our spirits (our minds, our hearts) we know that we don't need any religious sect to belong to! The golden rule: "Do undo others as you would have them do to you" is all you need to know and "love thy neighbor as thyself". Is all you need to know!

Religious organization are merely out to make money for themselves and not have to pay taxes on it! You believe that shit? So much for separation of church and state! What a bunch of hypocrites! Am i mad? You damn right I'm mad! It's separatism, it spreading hate.. you are in a way threatening my life! The church in it's own way of spreading hate and belittleing me is spreading hate and threatening my life.. causing people to hate me and look at me like I have a disease! How dare you! How dare you!

But see you don't see gay people returning the hate and acting like fools like Christians do.. do you see gay people marching in front of churches spreading hate? No you don't!

How dare you.. treat people like this? Its a sin! To hate - is a sin!

Like Whoopie says, if you are not gay than don't marry a gay person! But, stupid ass Elisabeth, miss staunch perfect hollow head republican, says oh but mandatory teaching about homosexuals in schools would be put into law with not passing proposition 8. The preacher pushed that one.. and you know that's not true.. half that stuff in elementary and high school text books is manipulated anway.. oh yeah, sure, Iraq attacked us.. the terorist were from Iraq.. is what they put in the textbooks in case you didn't know! Hello there terrorist were from Afghanistan!

We must protect the sancity of marriage like gay people are going to dirty it by being able to be married!...But, personnally I think it's all political and Christians are working for politican, Republicans mostly to call gay unions "Civil Unions" - you know why? So they can try to get around granting gay people the 1000+ legal benefits that married people get - I think that is what this is really all about!

Hey and I got news for you.. there are more than 10% gays in this population.. if all closeted pretending to be straight gays came out.. I would guess that there are anywhere between 30 to 40% at least gay people in this population! But for some reason.. Christians and all relgious sects are so against gay people? Why? It's love for Christ sake.. and god created us all in his own image and likeness! What in the world is wrong with being gay? How am I hurting that precious married Christian family cranking out kids one right after the other? How am I hurting them? I don't care what you do.. well I didn't but now you are many me well aware of your presence into MY business.. which isn't really any of your business. And homosexuality is not contagious and it can't be taught - you idiots! It's random.. either you are born gay or you are not.. period.. And once more there is no changing...in mid-stream... Oh, another money making scheme for holier than thou Christians..

Christians claiming they can "correct" and "change" homosexuals into being straight people! It's nothing but a money making scheme; a scam! It's so sad.. I watch one day as parents were dropping off the gay kids to a church to be bain washed I guess into being straight - how sad they looked.. I cried for them! Of course I sure the four day, sure to change for $1000. bucks really took hold! Such bullshit! Just how desparate are people that they have to fall for this crap?

See the church has taught parents that if you have a gay kid - it's your fault. You did something wrong! That's really what this is all about! Remember back in the dark ages when they locked up mentality retarded kids in insititutions... and acted like they couldn't be helped.. that was really to protect the honor and intregity of narrow minded, egotistical, families from people thinking their was something wrong with THEM because they produced a "lessor than whole" child.

Look at what Joe Kennedy did with JFK's "slow" sister.. had her institutionalized and given a lobodomy.. because in unspoken terms.. she was an embarrassment to "HIM".. god people are sick! Trust me what young girl wasn't the sick one!!! greedy, egotistical old man Kennedy was the sick one! And isn't that the same case here with Christians spreading hate about homosexuals? Just think about!

Personally I don't give a rat's ass about the ceremony for myself.. but I see where two people loving each other want to.. but it's the 1000 plus legal rights that married people have a right too that gay people (also tax payers) can't get their hands on.. it's unconsititutional! You telling me who I can't marry?! It's unlawful and unconstitutional! We are stopping me, keeping me (a tax payer) from receiving 1000 + rights that you have and I can't have because I don't love who you think I should love? Are you Christians just nuts? Mind your own businesess! You are interferring in my constitutional legal rights! Go away

Can't stand Bush

just to heard his voice makes me cringe! Speaking like a big shot today..going to create a smooth transition out and in for Obama..while protecting Americans from our enemies! Enemies? Bush your only enemy is your vice president and your cabinet! And yourself! Bush hot-dogging it, feathers all puffed, like he really knows something? Isn't it amazing, the ones who strut around the most or the most ill-fitted and in-effective! A confident, intelligent soul doesn't need to put on airs or be pretentious. Flaunt it like you got something - doesn't really fool anyone! I had a boss that was like that - he was dumber than the day is long!

The President of the Republic of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad congratulated Obama on winning the presidency. Obama wants no preset or no preempt policies - like the Bush Doctrine which states in so many words that it is okay to attack someone if you think they may decide one day to attack you. Bush made bullies of us! Actually he and Cheney made us look pretty stupid! Obama has the world's respect from day one - he is ready!

McCain was another show off hot dog pilot the way it sounds.. of course you risk getting shot down flying over enemy territory. I think being a POW for five years doesn't make you presidential material.. only makes you slightly post traumatic syndrome prone with sudden jabs of anger.

Republicans think war is a fix for the economy (hence WWII - oh yeah we were attacked.. but the economy needed the boost of war jobs and service) that deregulation allowing messed up! To govern means to over see and regulate - not allow banks and financial institutions to run amok.. so the tax payers bail them out.. give them 700 billion.. but then what do they (government) do.. hire a financial/banker guy to hello, distribute the money.. guess where it's going? again - into their pockets! That was stupid! Again, same song! A repeat! No regulations in place and no over seeing just where that 700 billion is going. And the two guys they hired were from Goldman Sachs.. go figure! The Bush administration was solely ran by large corporations.. for the monetary profits of those corporation leader... Elisabeth on the View got her didn't she! Her man lost! Just how dumb she she and Bush and McCain think the American people are...We know their allowing of de-regulations allowed banks to go belly up! Or did they really or is it a sham like everything else. "Wag the Dog" theatrics!

Oil men - go away and take all those other lobbyist with you too! Drug companies that run the FDA and doctors hired by drug companies to test the new drugs - oh please! And all the while Bush Administration lessening regulations so they can run amok and rip off people too - or worse! Hey, got a symptom.. hm, rather than checking to see it might be the side effect of a present taking drug.. they merely hand out another drug (usually costing $100 - $300. per month supply) to cover up the first drug's symptom. Just bull! But brilliant marketing! I'd say 80% of the ads on TV or from drug companies. Gee, who making money.. and look where it's landing.

And about home foreclosures.. the banks got all the fees and did the title companies..but "bail me out" is common now for banks, cars, you made it. Well, you know it's the end of the second term so let's just get as much as we can before we go.. I think that is what is really behind all this bail out stuff! Don't you? Well part of it.. but I heard on NPR this morning that banks and investment places were still giving their CEO's high wages and "bonuses".. on mine and your dollar! Well, Elisabeth, that the Republicans for you! See they want to keep people stupid - so they can pull this type of thing off... that's why too they hide behind defense, using fear tactics and behind anti-gay and pro-life. They, the Republicans, push these distracting single issues to take voters minds away from the "real" issues that would effect their livelihood! It's the Republican way! And be pushing and trying to run the world is the Republican way.. not sitting down and talking first and trying to work out strategies is another.. let's just attack! Reactive instead of proactive like Obama will be. Now he has honor and integrity.. not let's see how much we can screw them for our own monetary gains - attitude like the past eight years... old Mr. Halliburton and his ex general turned CEO buddies wanting a pick of the pie setting up shops in Iraq. Watch the DVD "Iraq for Sale: War for Profit".

I'm so glad it's the end for them...go away and take all the lobbyist with you and give me my president for the people by the people..

I expect Obama may get the ball rolling on some things much quicker than an anti-green president like what we had would do. Bush didn't really want to move away from oil.. it's contradictory to their monetary profits and their lobbyist buddies' profits.. they are all oil men. They have merely been offering lip service for thirty years now! Personally, I'm tired of it! Lies get old after a while! And those stupid BP and Chevron commercials like they really care.. and hydrogen cell vehicles like they really care.. it's all bull. besides hydrogen cell is made with natural gas.. so they are not giving up fossil fuel use anyway. And flirty air burning coal being sold to China and elsewhere where the air is thick and factories had to shut down during the olympics.

But, what do i know? I only know this administration messed up.. for one thing how did they really expect people to buy these half million dollar homes when wages do not keep up with the cost of living? Hello! That is where you should be competitive with ordinary tax paying citizen's salaries.. not already big fat ass CEO's who are drowning in money already.. but see it's stupidity and most of all greed.. you know this old bucks in Washington had to be making a killing on kick backs!

Financing companies who give loans to builders needed to get these unaffordable homes sold so they came up with "creative" financing.. which they knew would work for the short term.. well "let's keep the interest low for two years' and by the time the rate goes up.. we'll be out of here and leave the next president with the mess! Yeah this last bunch were real assholes and I put daddy Bush in there with one of the biggest ones. He was really pissed he lost his second term to Bill Clinton.. so the whole time Clinton was in office he got Ken Star in there searching for something to hang the Clinton's with - they were setting themselves up for the next election and at the same time too, grooming "W". Mr. Puppet!.. I guess now for these eight years with Obama.. they'll be grooming the nephew Bush for 2016! See by then there will be anothe crooked election so nephew can get in there and make all those lobbyist rich again and of course himself. Yeah Eisenhower warned "betware the military industrial war machine" !

Well, I for one am just going to enjoy the next eight years.. and would really like to buy a plug in electric car - plug into any outlet! Yippee! Obama will move us in to the 21st super sonic state of the art future! I'm so sick of "oil" and big ass gas guzzlers and car that looks like they should be parked in some museum somewhere along old Route 66! Get with it! It's put these old oil retro farts out to pasture somewhere. Show me so futuristic technology in the way of a super economic, safe, RELIABLE, electric reasonablly priced vehicle.. I'm ready to be prove of this nation for a change!

Can't it have intregity and be prove? Where are the ethics? Must everything be done with lies and under-handedness from fear tactics, threats of terrorist, evil nuclear enemies - I'm tired of all that bull crap.. and we American aren't that stupid! Now you know why Obama got elected instead more-of-same McCain!

I want all young entreprenuers to get ready because I think Obama will give incentives to intelligent inventors to come up with "all electric" for everything.. and clean.. no nuclear. WE don't need nuclear! We have sun, air and water to develope enough power for everything.. without big corporations making a big ass profit.. let the little guy make a profit for a change... get rid of the Walmarts conquering, take over, drive out the little guy types and let the little guy invent and make some dough!

Oh, and see the DVD "Gashole". Don't forget "Who Killed the Electric car?" and watch "Sicko" too... there is really nothing wrong with socialism people.. on the minds of sick republican leaders who work for greedy corporations who don't want to give up their profits......

"For profit" hospitals are going to rip you off just like drug companies, insurance companies etc., just what is so great about totall capitalism anyway.. if you are an average tax paying person. People in England, France, Germany, Sweden and more have socialized medicine and they are happy! They get lots of vacations, paid time off for illness.... FREE education up to doctorates etc., OF course they pay about 50% taxes.. but they pay for nothing else. except there home and food. and they have good decent transportation.. and they don't have suburbian racist idiots fighting public transportation tax increases and routes out to the suburbs.. they get along with everyone..... we should be ashamed! Racist republicans should be ashamed! Big ass pretending to be rich super-sized SUV dummies are playing right into the hands of the oil men... You know it's like smoking is now.. if you smoke you look totally stupid! And that is how big ass SUV drivers took to me - totally oil stupid.. and not green!

And don't believe that bull shit about hybrid big super sized SUV's.. they use gas along with the electric otherwise they don't run... yeah.. at they only get 25 MPH...don't be fooled by your silly foolish pride....and old fashion thinking!

Inside be the first to be "green" and totally electric thinking with power dervived the super futuristic air, solar and water power. Hey, we have the technology.. it's the oil men holding us back.. And how stupid is that?

Borrowing trillions of dollars to buy foreign oil.. are these guys suffering from altzherimers? LIving in the past! I ssy get a life! Go away! It's stupid borrowing money from China to give to the MIddle East. Have you see the oil profit city of Dubai.. it's fabulous.. that's our money! That's built with oil money.. so move away from oil.... use something else..

And this allowing jobs to be moved to other countries is TREASON! Giving large corporations tax breaks to move jobs off-shore and out-source is I'd say.. treason.. and just plain stupidity.. how do you expect to maintain a decent.. tax base if you do not have people working.. making enough to pay taxes.. are these idiots in Washington just plain .. stupid? Obama knows these jobs have to be brought back home.. This last administration is the worse I have seen in years.. actually Clinton was slimy too.. old man Bush was bad, Reagan ..same thing.. selling out of America! You can't sell out Americans and expect to keep this country ecnomically sound!

And the way Bush treated the soldiers.... well I'm not going there today....Cheney didn't give a shit about the soldiers he wanted war in Iraq so 100,000 or more corporations could set up over there and make tons of money.. again. see DVD "Iraq for Sale: War for Profit!"

Yes, finally hope for the future!

Read this article:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27533133

Obama will get us back on trace and more.. he will bring us up to date for the 21st century. We will lead the way to a prosperous economy and a "green" economy and planet!

People around the world will be encouraged to learn from each other to build a better global economy and a "green" planet saving economy!

Greed and crooks will not be tolerated because upon reading the above article you wil learn that Obama will bring FDR's "New Deal" up to date!

Finally, and still in my life time, we have seen an end to the Republican military industrial war machine that Dwight D. Eisenhower warns us about when he left office. He knew Republican would initiate war for industrial profit.. and like we have seen pre-empt attacks, maybe even conspiracy on our own homeland, to initial war to protect our speical interest of oil and corporate greed.

May all the lobbyist get out of Washington. Obama took no lobbyit money or public funding.. the average tax paying American monetarily supported his campaign!

Finally, a president for the people by the people! Finally, we average tax paying American hanging on to the middle class but slipping into poverty because of lobbyist, corporate greed, will get a chance to better our lives. Just not being cheated by health insurance companies, drug companies, doctors working for drug companies pushing pills on elderly and more will come to an end. Farmers will be able to raise crops and cattle naturally and without drugs. Get rid of pen raised methods! Rotate crops! Get rid of fertilizers made with natural gas and pesticides pushed on farmers that wouldn't be needed if farmers could, like Argentina, rotate between crop and grazing cattle on the same land. Let's go natural! Let's go honest! Let's go green!

The evil Christians Republicans for corporate profit have failed; their reign has come to an end.. we the people have spoken. It's way over due - that government for the people by the people.

Young and old alike entrepreueners will come forth with inventive, creative, energy saving inventions.. life and work will be fun now! Bring forth your creative selves and let's work together to create green jobs and being prosperity and hope and life back to this planet!

GM yes, can be saved... to honest, get intregity, be ethnical for once in your life and bring back the EV1 and make it affordable, dependable.. be honest! There is a future in honesty and hope and honor! People you don't need to be a crook to make money! What you put out there you get back! Treat people fairly and well and honest and you will prosperous! Now that's god like!

Dishonesty is OUT.. intregity, honor, trustworthiness is IN! TRUST is in! Working together, globally, for a loving world will vibrate through our postiive energies and the world will shine with hope and love and prosperity for all! Why not?

What's with this Republican, Corporate silly ego top-dog crap! Be a man and work together and share ideas for the bigger good! Look how the world cheered when Obama won last night! THe people of the world knew Cheney and company and daddy Bush and the Reaganites were nothing but a bunch of crooks.. oh, I forgot Nixon.. the biggest crook of all! May you all be miserable in your wealth and legacy of greed! What a horrible example of leadership.. you brought the mortal fiber of the world down while swearing to stand behind Christian beliefs! How shameful!

All because of oil and greed you ran this country into trillions of dollars in debt! You just about ruined the planet with chemicals and poisons in our food, in our animals and in our earth and water ways.. and let it go on.. People were dying of disease because REpublicans took away protective regulations that FDR and others put into place to help save people and the planet and you greedy bastards torn it down to make a dollar - to get rich! And you hide behind Christan beliefs and people were too blind or turned a blind eye in hope of it were not being true.

But as experience has taught us.. corporations and anything that effects the pubic and the earth.. need regulations and over sight. We need to work together to make sure people are health conscious and planet health conscious and globally conscious.. honest people need to point out the shameful crooked bastards should they emerge again! Or new ones pop up.. expose them is all you need to do!

Obama needs to put a ceiling on the perts and bonus and extreme salaries that CEO's were taking for themselves and robbing employees and share holder in order to stick profits in their pockets.. it's government's job to regulate and over see corporate practices... we need that back.. that is NOT too much government.. that is merely doing the job of governing! It's for your own good.. Mr. Rush blind listener.

A new day has dawned.. the world is happy, the economy will reflect the re-newed sense of hope we all feel this morning! Oh thank you universe.. for the justice will served and deserved.. thank you! We as a people, as a global people are united